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13th Stepping

Khaos WolfKat — Fri, 22 May 2026 00:24:22 +0000

Here is an interesting article I found on recovery.com about 13th stepping: https://recovery.com/resources/exposing-the-shocking-truth-about-13th-stepping/ It also contains a link to a 2007, Newsweek exposé about how bad things got in a particular group, that I had never even heard about at all, despite being fully entrenched in the program at the time. Yikes!

Just a good reminder to be careful, don't automatically put your full trust in everyone, just because they are in recovery, EVEN if they have a lot of time! Be on the lookout for unhealthy behaviours, see if they walk their talk, and go to lots of different meetings. Any group that tries to prevent other groups “poaching” their members, or otherwise discourages going to other meetings, that is a BIG, red flag! As are a lot of other behaviours mentioned in the Newsweek article, which is about a lot more than just 13th stepping.

MOST groups are, of course, not like that Midtown Group at all, but there are a few where that kind of thing is tolerated, encouraged, or even runs rampant, and we should always call that shit out. Our primary purpose is to stay sober, and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety!!

Despite the reluctance of many to speak out at the time, according to the Newsweek piece, citing, “anonymity”, AA's General Service Office has some very specific things to say about anonymity and the topics covered in these articles, including the fact that, "Anonymity is not a cloak protecting criminal behavior", “No one should have to tolerate racial, sexual orientation, gender, age or other discrimination when they seek help from A.A.”, and, “A.A. membership does not include having to tolerate sexual harassment, threats of violence, financial coercion, or bullying. Nor is pressuring A.A. members into a particular point of view or belief relating to medications, religion and other outside issues acceptable”, at the following links.

Noonaroos' own Safety & Inclusion Policy was formed using these very resources, in fact.

What are your favourite meetings!?

Khaos WolfKat — Wed, 01 Oct 2025 07:10:26 +0000

Here's a thread to post links and/or information about your favourite meetings, either online or in person. It would be great if you shared a little about each one, what you like about it, if it is a “special interest” meeting (LGBTQ+/women's/men's/Atheist/Agnostic/etc, and what day's/times you attend, so folks know they can see at least one familiar face there. It's late right now, but I'll post some of my favs tomorrow or later this week!

Some people use AA as a dating service

Dan E — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 19:16:46 +0000

I've had issues with some people who've used AA to find dates/sex

We don't seem to have direct rules against people meeting in AA, like you might at church or a club and deciding to go on a date.

What are people's feelings on this?

(I'm not talking about predatory behavior of course!)

Why are alcoholics not joiners?

Dan E — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 19:13:17 +0000

I've heard a lot of stories about alcoholics saying they didn't feel like they fit in. Also, and possibly related, they weren't big "joiners" of clubs, organizations, etc.

Is this universal or what is going on here? Is the addiction itself making us isolate so we have to treat this part as well, stay connected?